Be Very Careful if you are buying a house!


Be very careful if you are a home buyer right now. The majority of purchases are going to be losing deals as the housing bottom is not here yet! That doesn’t mean that every house purchase is going to be a losing one. However, the majority of them will be! Especially if you plan on putting a house on mortgage, then this is going to increase debt even higher. The interest rates will go higher soon and this should cause problems. If you have a lot of money and you find a property that can work …

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mnap128 November 26, 2009 at 3:32 pm

Nice vid…too bad the majority didnt see your point of view many years ago….

CrackerJackLee November 26, 2009 at 3:49 pm

that being said, some do make a profit – but it’s like a crap game. you wouldn’t gamble 250K on a roulette table but you spend your whole life as a wage slave to end up no further ahead.

CrackerJackLee November 26, 2009 at 4:16 pm

a house is not an investment – it is a debt – a loser game. buy a house to live in – that you like. if you want profit, then flip houses – where you buy & sell within months. if you buy and hold, your profit is really inflation. think about it. there is no gain. and when you buy your new house, all your “profit” gets rolled into that. BUY A HOME – FLIP A HOUSE. and upon retirement, the market may be against you. real estate agents have you fooled into house-poor zombies with $ signs in your eyes

tdawgee November 26, 2009 at 4:44 pm

so,who has cash to pay for a house ??
You ???

rickvanman November 26, 2009 at 5:37 pm

Canada looks just like England this time of year!
Great advice as always Derek – I think the same principals appy over here too.
Thanks for sharing.

spoonman73 November 26, 2009 at 5:37 pm

fair enough

endlessmountain November 26, 2009 at 6:02 pm

I disagree in not trusting the fundamentals, for mixing the two together seems the best.

With people not able to afford houses and increase foreclosures it is very obvious that housing is not bottoming. However, I use inflation adjusted to get true realities on where it is going. For if inflation goes way out of control you can get more accurate readings.

spoonman73 November 26, 2009 at 6:31 pm

Agreed. However, that is because the housing market had already topped (July 05) when this index came out. But, if you look at the IYR,HXB they follow the same path as the stock market. Major lows 11-21-08,march-09,july-09 same as NASDAQ, DOW, SPX,NYSE etc. Using this same logic, could we not infer that housing may be bottoming as we speak? Just as it topped with housing stocks in July-05. Always trust your charts- not fundamentals.

endlessmountain November 26, 2009 at 7:01 pm

IYR is the best ETF I know, and the homebuilders came out in 2006 and only managed to gained around 2% from its original open and fell from the outset.

spoonman73 November 26, 2009 at 7:44 pm

Are you referring to the XHB? Housing stocks topped in july 05 preceding the housing crash. With the stock market as a leading indicator, it looks as if the housing bottom is being put in right now. Also, William Oneill has stated that the stock market bottom is in and that we are in a recovery phase.However, even though he is a genuis I don’t deny the possibility that this could be a bear market rally as the market is deviant. And the more they cheer on CNBC, the more nervous I get.

endlessmountain November 26, 2009 at 8:20 pm

i am in need of charts to determine. Real Estate ETF is ok, but it would be based on foreclosure, buyers and all these factors. I know that it is a long way from being better, that a real economic recovery needs to happen for this to be true.

spoonman73 November 26, 2009 at 9:19 pm

What measurement or index are you using to determine a housing bottom?

Chicagodogs0 November 26, 2009 at 9:43 pm

Bernanke is in a tough spot. They will stop QE in Oct. Because the falling dollar will increase gas prices and kill any so called recovery. Also if the dollar falls below 70 the bottom can fall out and send us into a depression. The so called free market will have to increase interest rates=more forclosures, more layoffs, more bank failures and more bank bailouts. We’ll go into a severe depression either way. Just slower with rising interest rates than the bottom falling out with QE

endlessmountain November 26, 2009 at 9:45 pm

correct. Putting over 50% of your assets on property would give you difficulties, as going broke means you have to sell quicker. By having gold and silver in your house, with all the other things that can generate revenue makes it a good purchase.

The point has always been the same. We only have so many days to go with this dollar. It could be a 2 year death cycle we live through. I don’t know if it gets Zimbabwe rates of growth.

If Bernanke stands true and stops buying in OCT = COLLAPSE

afsoldr November 26, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Here’s my thought on this, and I say this having bought a house and an acreage parcel 2 years ago, and just sold my other house a few months ago.

If you buy now at a fixed rate, assuming you have a cash reserve, put the cash reserve into the metals, minimum down on the house, and then, when the inflation runs off, you could possibly pay the house off for what a can of coke costs in the future, or maybe a couple ounces of silver/gold.

dgmoocher November 26, 2009 at 10:54 pm

Thanks for making me feel better about renting!

merryxster November 26, 2009 at 11:27 pm

Sound advice as usual. Could you please recommend a book on the Mayan calendar for someone who is totally ignorant on the subject? It would be greatly appreciated.

bjmccullough November 26, 2009 at 11:47 pm

I just bought 2 apartments here in central Tokyo with cash. They are now rented and provide me some income but the reason i bought them was an inflation hedge. good advice derik from nikei Bruce.

slobomotion November 26, 2009 at 11:50 pm

Your usual genius. :)
Shared WIDELY.
Greetings from France.

Kingratass November 27, 2009 at 12:43 am

im currently looking at 20 acres for 50k in city limits, wooded with wetlands and a creek…there are reasonable deals out there

its also possible that housing/real estate will go back up due to inflation, but not as fast as food, energy, and other commodities (especially gold/silver/etc)

PREPAREORSUFFER November 27, 2009 at 1:36 am

i think renting and purchasing gold and silver is your best bet !!

SamuraiCommando November 27, 2009 at 2:17 am

Unless you are buying farmland for a good price. You need water rights and a good domestic well. Food production is a excellent hedge.

SamuraiCommando November 27, 2009 at 2:21 am

Alot of videos having been doing that lately

endlessmountain November 27, 2009 at 3:18 am

yes, that is a good strategy. Like I said, if you buy a house with cash and it is a good investment based on what you are using it for.

The point of the video is to mention that buying houses is mostly a bad investment now. That is why i said the 90-95% because sometimes it is not.

For most people, waiting to buy a house is the smarter move.

thirdcoastguy November 27, 2009 at 3:34 am

Derek, if a person had the money to purchase a house would he/she not be better off investing it in gold now…………and buy the house later? You know, after the gold appreciates and the house depreciates?

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